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GPT Dot Trick Results in $26,000 in Chargebacks

Friday, 11 April 2008

On my GPT tips page, I used to have a little trick on there that explained how you could use your same email address for GPT sign ups. I'm not going to explain how it's done. Because some readers may just go right on ahead and try it out.

Early last month in March, GetPaidTo got a review here on CashJuke. Thomas Dietzel from Dietzel and Dietzel Inc, who have many incentive sites under their belt kindly let me know how the dot trick resulted in 26,000 in chargebacks from one of their advertisers because of the low quality in the leads. CashJuke wasn't open in January 08' (we launched in February 08'), so obviously I did not invent the trick or contribute to hurting them. I had no knowledge of it. This isn't the only trick that gives low quality leads. Using private numbers also does it. But I also feel that without a couple of these things, not many people would be using GPT sites anymore.

The point of this post? Don't try to make easy money even easier. If I had any knowledge of the money and problems simple tricks would cost, I wouldn't have told anyone about them. Fraud forces GPT sites to close down, so you're out of another money maker. These guys spend a lot of time building a site and making money from it (with your help) and splitting that money with you. It is the fraud that will cause incentive sites to one day disappear. Also if you take a look, you can see that the amount of affiliate networks accepting GPT sites are decreasing in numbers. A lot of people use them correctly to make some extra money, do you want to ruin it for everyone? I'm just assuming that the majority of the "cheaters" are in their early teens.

On a different note, stick around - We got some new sections coming :)

Comments

#1 Andrew
2008-04-2318:18:14
Maybe site owners shouldn't tell members it's okay to do the same offer twice if it's on a different site.
#2 Joe
2008-04-2318:21:53
Some proof if you don't believe Andrew, I chatted with Jacob on the lagoon chat support system.. Maybe that's what made Tom Dietzel lose $26k..

Jacob Connelly: Good morning! How can I assist you today?
Bill: Morning?
Bill: lol
Jacob Connelly: i'ts after midnight at our office :) Technically, it's morning
Bill: Oh 1:19 here :)
Bill: You guys are located in the US?
Jacob Connelly: Yes, we're based out of Florida
Bill: Oh
Jacob Connelly: And what is your question tonight? :)
Bill: If I complete an offer on phonelagoon.com and complete the same offer on hostinglagoon.com is that permitted?
Jacob Connelly: yes, you can complete the same surveys on each of our websites
Jacob Connelly: The only negative outcome would be possibly having one of them denied, it's not against our site rules at all :)
#3 Tom
2008-04-2422:23:32
Thank you for notifying me of this, I would have preferred it was done in private since obviously Joe does have my private contact information, being that he is an AM on an affiliate network that we are a member on. It is very sad how far another site owner would go to try and discredit another. Everyone should be working together. However after careful deliberation with our office management, Jacob has been terminated and is no longer an employee of Dietzel and Dietzel. He was a new employee at that time, but he should have know better. He was hired on Feb 4th so he was with us for only 2 weeks at that time but still no excuse for this major mix-up. After reviewing endless chats, I can only see this being a very isolated issue. If anyone would like to comment further, please make sure it is on factual data and not speculation.

continuing post in next comment
#4 Tom
2008-04-2422:25:42
From Section III of our Terms of Service in the Area Labeled Offers: Part A, Sub Section 2 reads
" 2. Users may only complete an offer if they have never completed it previously, whether on this site or another"

This has been in our terms of service since as long as I can recall.

In Closing, if you wish to contact management of our sites personally to discuss further, feel free to open a support ticket at our support link, and request it to be forwarded to management and it will make it to my attention or our office manager's attention.

Thank you ,
Tom